BABYL OPTIONS: -*- rmail -*- Version: 5 Labels: Note: This is the header of an rmail file. Note: If you are seeing it in rmail, Note: it means the file has no messages in it.  0, unseen,, *** EOOH *** Path: shore!usenet.logical.net!Gamma.RU!srcc!newsfeed.sovam.com!sovam!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jl@cypress.com Newsgroups: rec.sport.skating.ice.figure Subject: Skating in Movies (LONG) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:54:53 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 445 Message-ID: <6lpjnd$nvf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 157.95.212.5 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jun 11 21:54:53 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) First post: 21-Jul-96 First revision: 01-Aug-96 Second revision: 10-Jun-98 There have been number of posts in the past about about skating movies on the toob; mostly the Sonja Henie films. The following are all of the movies I have found to date that contain ice skating; ANY ICE SKATING. That includes figure skating, hockey and speed skating whether the skating is an integral part of the movie or just background. Sonja Henie's eleven films are noted here. It's just that I happened to have many of the following titles on tape in a rather overly-large tape library; something on the order of 1100+ titles, about 18 years worth of recording. I have added all of the items posted by my fellow netters and some more items I have located regarding this thread to this updated file. The items added since the previous post of this file are marked with an asterisk. Feel free to note any titles that I have missed or have not described very correctly. AGNES OF GOD (Meg Tilly, Jane Fonda, Ann Bancroft) A scene where a bunch of nuns are skating on a pond at their convent; Canada, remember. You ever seen nuns in their complete traditional "uniforms" SKIING? The two I encountered at Heavenly Valley one day knew what they were about - some Austrian order; blue habits rather than black like most orders or the mostly white like the Dominicans. Flying veils as they wailed on down the slopes - an unusual sight. APARTMENT FOR PEGGY * (Jeanne Crain, William Holden, Edmund Gwen) Several scenes, one long, that have an outdoor ice rink at a college in the background. Caught one skater doing a Besti Squat; an ugly move then (~1950) as well as now. BABYCAKES (Ricki Lake) Don't know anything out this one; both Olivia Olivares and Tracie Bezerra posted notes about it. BAMBI (Disney full-length animation) Not really ice skating but the scene of Bambi and Thumper on the ice implies ice skating. Olivia Olivares reminded me of this one. BEAUTIFUL GIRLS * (Timothy Hutton, Matt Dillon) One of the main characters is talking to a local teeny-bopper while she is skating on a town pond. BELL, BOOK AND CANDLE * (Kim Navak, James Stewart, Jack Lemmon) A short scene at a New York park rink where the characters portrayed by Kim Novak and Jimmy Stewart are supposed to be skating. In the their closeup, the skating had to be a rear projection shot. BISHOP'S WIFE, THE (Cary Grant, Loretta Young, David Niven) A scene where the Cary Grant and Loretta Young characters are ice dancing on a simulated pond. It was pointed out by Margaret Burwell that these skaters were doing a part of the Kilian. Looking at the tape again, that was the case. I also noted that Loretta Young and Cary Grant did some of the skating themselves, although not the dancing. BLADES OF COURAGE (Unknown) Just saw a post regarding this one. Haven't seen it. BORROWED HEARTS * (Hector Elizondo) A scene with the principles at an ice rink. I have only seen the promos for this one. BREAKING THE ICE (Charlie Ruggles) A skating troupe on tour. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. Haven't seen it. BY THE LIGHT OF THE SILVERY MOON (Doris Day, Gordon MacRae, Mary Wickes) A scene where a lot of locals are skating on a simulated pond; D. Day and G. MacRae are both actually skating here. Once heard that MacRae was a serious ice dancer but it wasn't obvious here. CARMEN ON ICE (HBO TV special - Katerina Witt, both Brians) Joe & Mary Schirmer posted that this HBO event was also released as a movie. CHAMPIONS, A LOVE STORY (TV Movie) Margaret Burwell brought this one up. I only vaguely recall seeing it. COOL RUNNINGS (John Candy) A scene including figure skaters, speed skaters and hockey players at the Calgary Olympics. The Jamacian bobsled team was trying to learn to run on ice in this scene. COUNTESS OF MONTE CRISTO * (Sonja Henie) Her last movie. Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. CUTTING EDGE, THE (Moira Kelly, D.B. Sweeney, Terry O'Quinn, Roy Dotrice) A lot of real skating; I assume you have all seen this one at least once. Kelly and Sweeney do some of the skating themselves. In fact, I saw a post some time ago from Timothy Mizerak suggesting that the skater doing the rudimentary single axel as Kate entered her rink late one morning was actually Sweeney; can't tell from the tape, though. Also, I have been told that Moira Kelly was once a competitive skater. I have seen posts since that dispute this; that Kelly was just a fast learner but according to Robin Cousins, might well have become a first class competitor had she started early enough. She certainly could project the typical attitude. D2: MIGHTY DUCKS, THE * (Emilio Estevez) Haven't seen this one. D3: MIGHTY DUCKS, THE * (Emilio Estevez) Haven't seen this one. DON KING: ONLY IN AMERICA * (unknown) A scene at an ice rink with the Don King character skating at some rink in his white pimp suit. Only saw bits and pieces of this one. DOWNHILL RACER * (Robert Redford, Gene Hackman, Dabney Coleman) A speed skating shot at some imaginary Olympics. DUCHESS OF IDAHO, THE * (Esther Williams, Van Johnson, Elanor Powell) A short background of the rink at Sun Valley. This movie is sort of a swimming version of Sun Valley Serenade. ELLERY QUEEN: TOO MANY SUSPECTS * (Jim Hutton, David Wayne) Julia Linthicum (janette@access.digex.net) posted a response about the TV movie that served as the pilot for the short-lived "Ellery Queen" TV show from the 1970s. It had a short skating scene at the Rockefeller Center ice rink with Ellery and his niece. The niece was doing her "Sonja Henie act" and Ellery had his nose in a book. Haven't seen it. EVERYTHING HAPPENS AT NIGHT (Sonja Henie, Robert Cummings, Ray Milland) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. FANTASIA (Disney classic full-length animation) The second music sequence in the film features some Tinkerbell genre fairies, or pixies if you like, ice skating. Fantasia has to be the source of Tinkerbell for the Peter Pan feature; same pixie dust, wings, flight motions, wand waving, etc. FARMER'S DAUGHTER, THE * (Loretta Young, Joseph Cotten, Charles Bickford) A scene on a pond at the home of the political lead, probably a senator, since the Loretta Young character ultimately ran for and won a seat in the House; relatively daring for the late 40s. FLASHDANCE (Jennifer Beals) Steve Hazen posted a reminder of this one. Two skating scenes. One where a friend of the Beals character is skating around her. The other scene is at some sort of local competition where the same friend crashes in the competition several times. (Note the non-skating scene near the start of the movie using a CHAIR, folks.) FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (Roger Moore, Lynn Holly Johnson, Topol) LHJ as an Olympic hopeful and the resident jail- bait. Skating scenes shot at Cortina along with the skiing. Much of the movie, including the obligatory car chase starring that absurd little yellow Citroen C2V, supposedly in Spain, was shot on location on the Greek island of Corfu; I recognized a lot of the background. The location of Corfu is left as a exercise for the reader; no ice skating rinks there, though. GIGI * (Louis Jourdan, Maurice Chevallier, Leslie Caron, Eva Gabor, Hermione Gingold) A scene where Gaston escorts Gigi to a Paris rink where Gaston's current girlfriend is taking a skating lesson. GOLDFINGER (Sean Connery, Honor Blackman, Gerte Frobe) A little skating by a pair on a small rink at the Fountainbleu Hotel in Miami; background. Anybody recall a similar small rink at the Jack Tar Hotel in San Francisco; or the Jack Tar Hotel for that matter - now known as Cathedral Hill Hotel? The rink is history, though; it's now a banquet room. GORKY PARK * (John Hurt, Lee Marvin, Brian Dennehy) This movie opens at a skating rink in a Moscow park with a closeup of a pair of ladies' skates. GRUMPY OLD MEN * (Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau, Daryl Hannah, Ossie Davis, Ann-Margret, Burgess Meridith) This one is a little lame for skating. There is a hockey game on a very snowy TV set in the ice- fishing shanty of Walter Matthau's character. HANS BRINKER AND THE SILVER SKATES * (unknown players) A Disney version of the Dutch classic shown very recently on the Disney channel. This is not the one Tab Hunter (a onetine competitor) did. There are a number of versions of this story floating around. HAPPY GILMORE * (unknown) A failed hockey player with a hairy slapshot becomes golf pro. Some hockey scenes shown. One scene of the primary character on a rink with a lady in figure skates. Only saw bits and pieces of this one; looked like a loser. HAPPY LANDING * (Sonja Henie, Don Ameche) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. HIGH TIME (Bing Crosby, Tuesday Weld, Yvonne Craig, Fabian, Gavin McLeod) Two scenes of college students skating on a pond; an obvious tank. All of the principals actually do skate, including Crosby and Fabian - none very well; Fabian was the best of the bunch. HOCKEY NIGHT (Rick Moranis) A 14 year old girl becomes the new goalie for a boy's championship hockey team. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. Haven't seen it. ICE-CAPADES (Jerry Colona, Alan Mobray, Phil Silvers) A 1941 movie; probably similar to the Henie movies. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. Haven't seen it. Quick, what are some other movies that Alan Mobray appears in? ICE CASTLES (Lynn Holly Johnson, Tom Skerritt, Robby Benson, Collene Dewhurst) One of the few "real" figure skating movies available; you've all probably seen this one too. If you haven't read the novelization, Lexie was written as doing several triple axels which, of course, LHJ could not begin to do. ICELAND (Sonja Henie, John Payne) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. IT'S A PLEASURE (Sonja Henie) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. motty@ix.netcom.com emailed about this one; said his father was in it. Henie's only movie in color; surprising that none of the others have been colorized; hear that, Ted? JANUARY MAN (Kevin Kline, Mary Elizabeth Mastranonio, Alan Rickman, Susan Sarandon) Some public skating in a NYC park. The Mastranonio and Kline characters are skating here. LITTLE WOMEN [1994] (Wynona Rider) Haven't seen this one yet. Joe Jaucian posted that there is a pond skating scene in it. LONG KISS GOODNIGHT, THE * (Geena Davis, Samuel L. Jackson) Two skating scenes. One in which the Davis' character is challenging her daughter to skate and a second where Davis' character crosses a frozen lake to catch someone in a car. Geena Davis appears to have done some and possibly all of her character's skating. LOVE STORY (Ali McGraw, Ryan O'Neal, Ray Milland ) Joe & Mary Schirmer posted about the O'Neal character playing hockey. I vaguely remember that. And no, I can't see Al and Tipper as the models for the principals this one. MIGHTY DUCKS, THE * (Emilio Estevez) I have only seen bits and pieces of this one. There was a figure skater on this team wearing figure skates; did a spin in a game, as I recall. MIRACLE ON ICE (Karl Malden) Made for TV movie about the 1980 U.S. hockey team at Lake Placid. MONEY TRAIN * (Robert Blake, Woody Harrelson, Wesley Snipes) Several overhead shots of the Rockefeller Center rink and some odd shaped rink, possibly in Central Park. These scenes were at the start of the movie. MY LUCKY STAR * (Sonja Henie, Richard Greene) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE (George Lazenby, Dianna Rigg, Telly Savalas) The Dianna Rigg character (Traci Marc-Ange) skating at a New Year festival in Switzerland as Bond skis off of the Piz Gloria to escape Blofeld. Hard to tell if Rigg was actually the skater. ON THIN ICE: THE TAI BABALONIA STORY * (don't know who's in it) A TV movie about Tai; probably ignited by the drug abuse story. ONE IN A MILLION (Sonja Henie, Adolph Menjou, Don Ameche) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. This one was her movie debut. PAPERBACK HERO (Keir Dullea, Elizabeth Ashley) Don't know if there is any actual skating. The Banner Blue summary mentioned hockey. Haven't seen it. PEOPLE VS. DR. KILDARE, THE (Lew Ayres, Lionel Barrymore, Red Skelton) A skater sues for mal practice. Don't know if there is actually any skating. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. I do recall hearing once that Red Skelton was supposed to be a good skater. Haven't seen this show. PREACHERS'S WIFE, THE * (Whitney Houston, Denzel Washington, Gregory Hines) A remake of THE BISHOP'S WIFE. It has been reported here that Houston and Washington do all of their own skating; can't say for sure since there are both close-ups and long shots. They obviously did some of the skating. REAL GENIUS * (Val Kilmer) A scene in which a college "genius" dorm has people ice skating in the hallways on genius-created ice that sublimed like CO2 rather than melting. The inventor said he hoped that the sublimated stuff wouldn't explode. ROCKY (Sylvester Stallone, Talia Shire, Burgess Meredith) Teresa (Traz66) posted that Rocky took his future wife ice skating on an early date; don't know, never saw the original Rocky. RONNIE AND JULIA * (Teri Garr) A Showtime produced film that I saw just the end of. There was a skater in some sort of show or competition wearing a feathered outfit including a mask; this outfit outdid any of Oksana Baiul's feathered suits. RUNNING MAN, THE * (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Maria Conchita Alonzo, Richard Dawson, Jim Brown) If you have seen the movie, one of the "stalkers" is a hockey skater using a metal hockey stick against the "runners". He was taken out by having barbed wire wrapped around his neck; a good way to take care of those ersatz hockey players infecting rinks these days, maybe? SABOTAGE * (unknown players) There is a scene involving a hockey game. Saw only pieces of this one. SECOND FIDDLE (Sonja Henie, Tyrone Power, Rudy Vallee) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. SIX WEEKS (Mary Tyler Moore, Dudley Moore, Katherine Healy) Joe & Mary Schirmer posted that that there was a ballet dancer in this one that was supposed to be a good skater also but was actually pathetic in the movie. Don't recall seeing this one. SKI PARTY * (Frankie Avalon, Dwayne Hickman, Debora Walley, Yvonne Craig, Robert Q. Lewis) A spin-off of the beach party movies; staged at Sun Valley. One scene of three or four minutes has what is supposed to be the outdoor rink at Sun Valley in the background but the sunshade is missing; possibly shot on location closer to LA? SLAP SHOT (Paul Newman) A minor league hockey team decides to increase ticket sales by playing dirty. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. Haven't seen it. SNOW WHITE AND THE THREE STOOGES (Carol Heiss, The Three Stooges) The Henie wanna-be movie; Carol Heiss has to cringe every time this one is mentioned although it now could be sort of a cult classic seeing as how the Stooges are in it and in color, yet; one of only two Stooge movies I know of in color. Carol Heiss is reported to have done axels in both directions in this one but I have never found them. SPECIES * (Ben Kingsley) A genetic engineered sort of horror movie. There is a scene where a principal character is watching a televised hockey game. SPLASH (Tom Hanks, Darryl Hannah, John Candy) The Daryl Hannah and Tom Hanks characters are skating at what appears to be some rink in New York City; not Rockefeller Center, however. It looked to me like they did all of their skating; no stand-ins. Both Kevin Anderson and Joe Jaucian posted reminders about SPLASH. STAY TUNED * (Pam Dawber, John Ritter, Jeffery Jones) A fantasy where the Dawber and Ritter characters are drawn through different worlds within TV. A scene where Ritter's character is playing in a televised hockey game. SUDDEN DEATH * (Jean-Claude VanDamme) The location is a Stanley Cup final game arena. Terrorists threaten to blow the place away during the game. Lots of hockey and a juicy chopper crash on the ice at the end of the movie; a crash starring the bad guys. SUN VALLEY SERENADE (Sonja Henie, John Payne, Milton Berle) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. Probably the best known of her 11 movies. Henie also skis in this one. Did you skiers note the chairlifts? All SINGLES; there are none left operating that I know of other than the one at Mad River Glen that I've read about. The last time I rode a single chairlift was at Aspen in 1968; the one formerly serving Ruthie's Run. SUNDAY IN NEW YORK * (Jane Fonda, Cliff Robertson, Rod Taylor, Jim Backus) The rink at Rockefeller Center is in the background during a scene at a Center restaurant next to the rink. TELEFON (Lee Remick, Charles Bronson, Tyne Daly, Sheree North, Donald Pleasence) A scene where Bronson's KGB character is coaching a boys' hockey team in Moscow. THIN ICE (Sonja Henie, Tyrone Power, Alan Hale) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. TO DIE FOR * (Nicole Kidman) Olivia Olivares posted about this one. This one had several interviews at an ice rink; even saw someone in the background do what looked like a triple sow. There was a marginal skater, I believe an above interviewee, skating on the frozen river into which the Kidman character was disposed of. TOUCH AND GO (Michael Keaton, Maria Conchita Alanzo) A pro hockey player is hitting on the mother of a juvenile who tried to mug him. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. Haven't seen it. UNMARRIED WOMAN, AN * (Jill Clayburgh) The Jill Clayburgh character skates at the Rockefeller Center rink while "finding herself". VALLEY OF THE DOLLS * (Patty Duke Astin, Lee Grant, Susan Hayward, Martin Milner, Barbara Parkins, Sharon Tate) A short small town pond scene at the start and an overhead view of the Rockefeller Center rink later in the movie. WHEN HARRY MET SALLY (Meg Ryan, Billy Crystal, Carrie Fisher) Public skating at Rockefeller Center - background. WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING (Sandra Bullock, Peter Boyle) Public skating in an Chicago park - background. Joe Jaucian pointed out that the location here was Chicago rather than NYC. Ya gotta pay attention all the time. WINTERTIME * (Sonja Henie) Typical Sonja Henie movie; skating featuring Henie; minimal plot. YOUNGBLOOD (Rob Lowe, Patrick Swayze, Ed Lauter) A minor league hockey player has to prove himself to his teammates. Entry from the Banner Blue movie archive program. A lot of hockey here. I found it interesting that at least three James Bond movies have some ice skating in them and that the two ersatz Bonds, in the persons of George Lazenby and Roger Moore, interact with the skaters in two of the movies. Louis Epstein noted that something called the Figure Skating Historical Society Journal documents ice skating in many movies. I've never see this publication. -jl John Looking to add Roller Skating into this list too. I can only recall the following right now: LAST MARRIED COUPLE IN AMERICA, THE XANADU SWING TIME -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading