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Note: If you are seeing it in rmail, Note: it means the file has no messages in it.  1,, Mail-from: From owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Wed Nov 29 15:30:38 1995 Received: from eli.CS.YALE.EDU by nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (8.7.1/res.host.cf-4.0) with ESMTP id KAA18278; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:30:36 -0500 (EST) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for <'sjl@nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> Received: from copland.udel.edu by eli.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7.1/res.host.bitnet.cf-4.1) with SMTP id KAA17894; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:29:48 -0500 (EST) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for Received: (from majordom@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA03198 for skatefans-l-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:11:58 -0500 Received: from nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (SYSTEMSZ-GW.CS.YALE.EDU [128.36.0.12]) by copland.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA03159 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:11:53 -0500 From: loosemore-sandra Received: from FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU by nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (8.7.1/res.host.cf-4.0) with ESMTP id KAA18054; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:11:52 -0500 (EST) sender loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU for Received: by FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU (Sendmail-8.7.1/res.client.cf-4.0) id KAA23033; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:11:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:11:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511291511.KAA23033@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> To: skatefans-l@UDel.Edu In-reply-to: <199511290455.XAA10734@mail1.sas.upenn.edu> (jseydl@sas.upenn.edu) Subject: Re: US Nationals Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk *** EOOH *** From: loosemore-sandra Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:11:49 -0500 (EST) To: skatefans-l@UDel.Edu In-reply-to: <199511290455.XAA10734@mail1.sas.upenn.edu> (jseydl@sas.upenn.edu) Subject: Re: US Nationals Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk jseydl@sas.upenn.edu (Jon Seydl) asks: The tickets for Nationals arrived today and I'd like to hear from some more experienced types what to expect, what to do, how to deal with the whole thing. I haven't gotten mine yet so you probably know more about specifics for this event than I do, but here's some suggestions based on past experience. Going to some practice sessions is highly recommended. Normally they have a conference room set up in the competitor's hotel where the skaters sign in and get their credentials and schedule information, and this is where you can go to buy (or just look at) the practice schedule booklet. If practices are being held at remote rinks, buy a pass for the competitors' bus here. Yes, you'll see famous skaters on the bus, at the hotel, at the practice rinks, in restaurants, etc, but try not to be rude in harassing them for autographs or pictures when they're obviously busy or preoccupied. Try to treat them like real people. I find it's often more rewarding to chat with some of the less-famous competitors, who are often tickled pink that anybody recognizes them or is interested in what they're doing. Parents of skaters always seem to be willing to talk to strangers about their kids, too. It's also interesting just to eavesdrop. Most diehard skate fans spend pretty much the whole day in the arena and grab meals whenever they can. Arena food is often overpriced and/or not very good, so it's worthwhile to look for takeout places nearby. (Last year in Providence there was a little bakery/cafe a block or so from the arena that everyone was flocking to.) Try to find time to get out of the arena and walk around outside and see a little of the city at some point during your stay. Getting some exercise and fresh air is good for you. In the past they have always had a skaters' trade show set up in the arena concourse or somewhere nearby -- booths selling skates, costumes, books, magazines, videos, t-shirts, and trinkets. I've heard a rumor that this year they're not doing this, though. Furthermore, does anyone know the arena? I have tickets in 227 section, Row 4. There's a map of the arena at on the WWW at http://www.wwcd.com/stadiums/ca/sharks.html I put a link to it on my skating page. Are the non-championship events usually full, or can one move from ticketed seats to a closer position if there are empty spots. Besides people who buy all-event tickets but don't show up until late in the week, they usually give a bunch of tickets for the best seats to competition sponsors, who rarely use them. In 1993 in Phoenix, I spent the entire competition sitting in one of these comp'ed seats -- it was only at the exhibition that someone showed up to claim the seat. Sometimes the ushers check tickets to make sure that you're going in the right section, but if there are a lot of empty seats they usually don't care. Besides the exhibition, the events most likely to be "full" are the senior men's and ladies' finals. A couple other hints: do *not* bring your video camera to the competition; you will not be allowed to use it and may not even be allowed into the arena with it. If you want to take pictures with a still camera, turn off the flash, or you'll similarly invoke the ire of the ushers. -Sandra  1, answered,, Summary-line: 29-Nov MCARR@us.oracle.com #Re: US Nationals Mail-from: From MCARR@us.oracle.com Thu Nov 30 01:14:13 1995 Received: from bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU by nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (8.7.1/res.host.cf-4.0) with ESMTP id UAA29899; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:14:11 -0500 (EST) sender MCARR@us.oracle.com for <'sjl@nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com by bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7.1/res.host.uucp.cf-4.1) with SMTP id UAA27094; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:13:10 -0500 (EST) sender MCARR@us.oracle.com for Received: from mailsun2.us.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with ESMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id RAA05282; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:13:08 -0800 Received: by mailsun2.us.oracle.com (8.7.1/37.8) id RAA11897; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:14:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511300114.RAA11897@mailsun2.us.oracle.com> Date: 29 Nov 95 17:10:15 -0800 From: "Mary Carr" To: loosemore-sandra, skatefans-l@udel.edu Subject: Re: US Nationals Cc: mcarr@us.oracle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 *** EOOH *** Date: 29 Nov 95 17:10:15 -0800 From: "Mary Carr" To: loosemore-sandra, skatefans-l@udel.edu Subject: Re: US Nationals Cc: mcarr@us.oracle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 FYI. Tickets are in the process of being mailed out for US Nationals. Hope you guys like the tix, the committee worked very hard to make them pretty. A couple of responses based on Sandra's post: >>Normally theyhave a conference room set up in the competitor's hotel where the skaters sign in and get their credentials and schedule information, and this is where you can go to buy (or just look at) the practice schedule booklet. If practices are being held at remote rinks, buy >>a pass for the competitors' bus here. You won't be able to get into the registration area at the hotel unless you are actually registering for the competition. This is for security reasons. No one will be allowed in unless they can prove (via USFSA number and photo id) that they belong there. I can possibly post the practice schedule but it's pretty substantial (last cut was several pages long!), it's probably easier to fax it to those who are interested. Practices are being held at the Ice Centre of San Jose as well as the main SJ Arena. You CANNOT buy a bus pass on the competitors bus. There will be separate shuttle transportation available. If you are an all event ticket holder, you can buy an all event shuttle pass for $35 if you order it before 12/23/95. After that the pass is $40. You can also buy daily shuttle passes for $10/day. If you are crazy enough to want to drive (and park) near the SJ Arena, you can purchase a parking pass book good for all 7 days (including in/out privileges) for only $50 (the daily rate will be $10 if you can get it). Parking near the arena is ALWAYS jammed and the gougers will be out in force. Helpful hint for those with cars: go to the Ice Centre and park in the FREE lot there and take the shuttle service to the Arena. >>Most diehard skate fans spend pretty much the whole day in the arena and grab meals whenever they can. Arena food is often overpriced and/or not very good, so it's worthwhile to look for takeout places nearby. (Last year in Providence there was a little bakery/cafe a >>block or so from the arena that everyone was flocking to.) There are all kinds of WONDERFUL eateries in downtown San Jose. Try to take advantage of the variety of different cuisines represented in the area. >>Try to find time to get out of the arena and walk around outside and see a little of the city at some point during your stay. Getting >>some exercise and fresh air is good for you. Good idea. January weather in SJ could be great or it could be rainy, be sure to pack a small traveling umbrella that you can carry around easily. There are a lot of neat things to do and see in San Jose. >>In the past they have always had a skaters' trade show set up in the arena concourse or somewhere nearby -- booths selling skates, costumes, books, magazines, videos, t-shirts, and trinkets. I've >>heard a rumor that this year they're not doing this, though. Not true. There will be a trade show as well as general souvenirs for sale. Don't remember if it is at the arena or at one of the hotels. I believe some stuff will also be available at the Ice Centre. Some general info: the security will be very tight at this event. Don't even think about trying to get backstage without an appropriate credential. The credentials are not only color coded but they are dated and have an expiration. Even comptetitors won't be able to get to certain areas backstage once there events are completed. Bring a warm jacket and think layers for clothing. SJ temps in January can be a balmy 65 or a miserable wet 30 or anywhere in between. The arena is comfortable both seating wise and temp wise. The Ice Centre tends to be COLD for spectators (especially the "indoor" surface). Hope this helps a bit. We are all excited about the event. We're in countdown mode getting ready. I'm co-registrar and this next month is gonna be extremely busy as we get all the competitor, officials, coach and volunteer data loaded into the registration database. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Mary Carr, CPIM Phone: (415) 506-2684 Design Architect FAX: (415) 506-7294 Mfg Applications email: mcarr@us.oracle.com "Ambiguity succeeds where honesty dares not venture" -- Dogbert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------  1,, Mail-from: From owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Sat Feb 24 00:48:08 1996 Received: from bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU by nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (8.7.1/res.host.cf-4.0) with ESMTP id TAA04971; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:48:06 -0500 (EST) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for <'sjl@nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> Received: from copland.udel.edu by bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7.1/res.host.uucp.cf-4.1) with SMTP id TAA24846; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:43:31 -0500 (EST) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for Received: (from majordom@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA25275 for skatefans-l-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:29:50 -0500 Received: from alpha.isc.rit.edu (alpha.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.8]) by copland.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA25261 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:29:47 -0500 Received: from a1gate.rit.edu by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #14499) id <01I1KBCC3YWGAOKY0O@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for skatefans-l@udel.edu; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:27:34 -0500 (EST) Received: with PMDF-MR; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:27:30 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta VAXB; Relayed; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:27:30 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Trudi Marrapodi Subject: Re: Worlds To: "@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL" <@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL> Message-id: <01I1KBCCOLKMAOKY0O@a1gate.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US_ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:14:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-MTS-identifier: [;03729132206991/818340@RITVAX] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk *** EOOH *** MR-Received: by mta VAXB; Relayed; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 19:27:30 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Trudi Marrapodi Subject: Re: Worlds To: "@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL" <@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US_ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:14:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-MTS-identifier: [;03729132206991/818340@RITVAX] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk Marg had some great tips for attending any major skating event. Here are some more: --Bring a tote of some kind with you. Before you leave your hotel room each day, load it up with the things you think you may need all day long. *Anything.* That way you won't waste time traveling back and forth. --See what the programs look like before you buy. The ones at U.S. nationals actually DO have room for everyone's marks. But of course there are always scratches and whatnot, and at worlds some people have to qualify in singles, so who knows? --If you need to wear boots to the arena and back, to restaurants, whatever, bring a pair of sneakers or even slippers with you to wear when in the arena. If you don't, your feet will stew in their own boot sweat all day long, and by night they'll be wrinkled like you've been in the bath for hours, itchy and with the skin peeling. (Ugly thing to mention but it is true. Don't learn the hard way like me.) Now that I've grossed everyone out...who is going to do our daily net reports? Should not those of us who are going figure that out? Trudi tamcmp@rit.edu