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Note: If you are seeing it in rmail, Note: it means the file has no messages in it.  1,, Summary-line: 7-Mar MARRAPODI.TA@a1.rit.edu #Re:Skate The Nation Mail-from: From owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Thu Mar 7 22:58:12 1996 Received: from bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU by nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (8.7.1/res.host.cf-4.0) with ESMTP id RAA25863; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:58:09 -0500 (EST) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for <'sjl@nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> Received: from copland.udel.edu by bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7.1/res.host.uucp.cf-4.1) with SMTP id RAA25079; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:54:02 -0500 (EST) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for Received: (from majordom@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05411 for skatefans-l-outgoing; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:43:48 -0500 Received: from vaxg.isc.rit.edu (vaxg.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.7]) by copland.udel.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA05385 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:43:44 -0500 Received: from a1gate.rit.edu by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #14499) id <01I22DFCTG1SAW2CY2@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for skatefans-l@udel.edu; Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:41:24 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta VAXB; Relayed; Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:41:24 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: Trudi Marrapodi Subject: Re:Skate The Nation To: "@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL" <@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL> Message-id: <01I22DFDHTRAAW2CY2@a1gate.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US_ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:34:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-MTS-identifier: [;42147170306991/864570@RITVAX] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk *** EOOH *** MR-Received: by mta VAXB; Relayed; Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:41:24 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: Trudi Marrapodi Subject: Re:Skate The Nation To: "@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL" <@a1gate.rit.edu:skatefans-l%udel.edu@VMSMAIL> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US_ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:34:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-MTS-identifier: [;42147170306991/864570@RITVAX] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk This is a long one... Clay says: >Does anyone have a schedule for this? I checked on the web, but >the dates were all in May? I keep seeing reviews, so it must be >going on now? I can understand why you're confused...the dates you're seeing in May are for the *Canadian* Skate the Nation tour. The tour Catherine reviewed is the U.S. tour, which only visited a few cities. Both produced by IMG, but have absolutely nothing in common except for Brian Orser. Following, a brief history of the IMG tours: Of course, we all know that IMG first began a touring ice show under the name Stars on Ice in five little U.S. college towns in 1985. This tour expanded to many more small and medium-sized cities that didn't usually get a lot of ice shows. It then moved to a few bigger cities along with the small ones, and even a few smaller ones in Canada, but still didn't tour to places like New York or LA. At this time the practice began of "previewing" the tour by having it play in a few *really* small cities, not sponsored by Discover Card, and called the Scott Hamilton America Tour (in IMG parlance, "the B Tour," as opposed to SOI, "the A Tour.") Same thing as Stars on Ice, but a different name. Then it would go on the road as Stars on Ice in the bigger cities. By 1991, the tour was hitting the bigger Canadian cities, with various sponsors, after its U.S. tour was over, thanks to the success of Kurt Browning brought in as an anchor star. The cast, however, was still mostly Americans. It did not become mostly Canadian until 1993. In 1992, IMG bought out the arena dates of the Boitano/Witt Skating tour and finally moved into the really big cities. The "A Tour" became huge, yet it still visited some of the smaller cities, only this time it visited them after the big ones instead of before, and this "B City Tour" was called The America Tour (although it was really the same show as Stars on Ice). Some of the towns that used to be "big" cities for SOI were "demoted" to "B Tour" cities for a while (such as Rochester, which has now been bumped back up to A Tour status, although this doesn't really mean much of anything). Also in 1992, IMG expanded the Canadian SOI to all major Canadian cities. In 1993, they did a three really-small-U.S.-cities "C Tour," with a slightly different cast from SOI, in the fall before SOI, calling it Go Figure! (I saw this in Utica.) And in the spring of 1994, they began a "B Tour" for Canada, called Skate the Nation, with an *all*-Canadian cast, taking place in the spring *after* the Canadian SOI tour. This combines Canadian pros and eligibles. It's been going on every spring since. (It's this tour you saw the May schedule for.) They also began having Stars on Ice shows in Hawaii in June after Skate the Nation was over. So what happens this winter but IMG comes up with another U.S. "B Tour"--this one touring *at the same time* as the "A Tour" (SOI) with a different cast--and just to confuse everyone, calls it Skate the Nation? Prior to this, they were going to call it The America Tour, but I guess they thought better of that, seeing as how "The America Tour" could be *anything*--from an Up With People show to a tour by the rock group America (I guess). The name doesn't exactly scream "ice show." So, apparently having the rights to the name "Skate the Nation" on both sides of the border, they used it again for this tour. But with the exception of Orser, the cast, cities and dates were nothing the same. And, of course, SOI now looks good to go in Japan after they're done in Canada, and maybe in Paris too...and although Orser doesn't do mainland SOI anymore, he still does it in Hawaii, so he looks like a good possibility for Japan and Europe... I hope this has all been clear as a bell to everyone. Of course, the real question is, "Why didn't they just call this U.S. version of Skate the nation 'Go Figure'?" Well...go figure. Trudi tamcmp@rit.edu  1,, Mail-from: From owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Sat May 10 03:28:52 1997 Received: from bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU by nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu (8.7.1/res.host.cf-4.0) with ESMTP id XAA28011; Fri, 9 May 1997 23:28:50 -0400 (EDT) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for <'sjl@nebula.systemsz.cs.yale.edu> Received: from copland.udel.edu by bulldog.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7.1/res.host.uucp.cf-4.1) with ESMTP id XAA25632; Fri, 9 May 1997 23:24:19 -0400 (EDT) sender owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu for Received: (from majordom@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA25110 for skatefans-l-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:19:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: copland.udel.edu: majordom set sender to owner-skatefans-l using -f Received: from bdsvx3.bdsnet.com (SYSTEM@berlen.bdsnet.com [207.196.96.1]) by copland.udel.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA25061 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705092219.SAA25061@copland.udel.edu> Received: from thornmar.bdsnet.com (ip137.berlen.bdsnet.com) by bdsvx3.bdsnet.com (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 09 May 1997 18:18:52 EST X-Sender: thornmar@berlen.bdsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: persuasion@earthlink.net From: thornmar@berlen.bdsnet.com (Cynthia McGinnes) Subject: Re: Nicole's Evita CC: skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Precedence: bulk *** EOOH *** Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:19:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: thornmar@berlen.bdsnet.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: persuasion@earthlink.net From: thornmar@berlen.bdsnet.com (Cynthia McGinnes) Subject: Re: Nicole's Evita CC: skatefans-l@UDel.Edu Sender: owner-skatefans-l@UDel.Edu >Cynthia McGinnes wrote: > >> Yes, but Caryn was on an A tour for three years as a member of SKATING!! > >Ok, I'll bite. What was <> ? > >Leigh > > > SKATING, SKATING II, and SKATING '92 were the three Boitano/Witt tours that started in the spring of l990,the second one ran from Dec. 1990-March 1991 and the third from Dec. 1991-March 1992. They were produced by rock concert promoter Bill Graham whose San Francisco company Bill Graham Presents is perhaps best known for their representation of the Grateful Dead. Bill Graham was killed in a helicopter accident just before the start of the third tour, and IMG bought out the SKATING tour dates in the big arenas that summer of l992..reportedly they made an offer to the heirs of Bill Graham that they 'couldn't refuse'. SOI, to that point, had been playing mostly smaller arenas, and IMG needed to get the dates in the big arenas that Bill Graham had because of his rock concert connections. Sandra Bezic,Michael Seibert, Jef Billings (costume designer), all came to SOI from the SKATING tours along with the arena dates. There were quite a few hard feelings at the time (and actually still are) with fans of the SKATING tours who felt that IMG had put their favorite show 'out of business' and hired away all their talent. It was just a good business deal, though..and Stan Feig, VP of Bill Graham Presents,supposedly did protect Boitano in the deal..Brian was reportedly offered a contract as a headliner for SOI the next year, but turned it down. At that point,Boitano was already preparing to go back to the Olympics and he was reportedly offered a great deal with the TOC that fit in with his schedule better. Katarina was not offered a role on Stars at that time...she did not join Stars until after the 1994 olympics. Hope this answers your questions!! Cynthia